Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max
什么时候选哪个
两者的输入定价均为每百万 token $2，差别在其他几项：gemini-4-argon 的输出价格为每百万 token $10，而 qwen3.8-max 为 $6；但在缓存读取上，前者为 $0.1，后者为 $0.25，这使得前者在重度依赖缓存、以读取为主的流程中成本更低。如果在图文之外还需要音频或视频输入，并且需要用到 1048576 token 的上下文，请选择 gemini-4-argon。如果是单次回复较长的图文任务，请选择 qwen3.8-max，它的最大输出 token 为 131072，是 gemini-4-argon（65536）的两倍，且输出费率更低。
Benchmark 成绩
Gemini 4 Argon：供应商没有公布 benchmark 成绩。
供应商公布： Alibaba (Qwen) Anthropic ByteDance DeepSeek Google MiniMax Moonshot OpenAI Tencent Z.ai
价格
| Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | Δ | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 输入 / 1M token | $2 | $2 | = |
| 输出 / 1M token | $10 | $6 | 1.7× |
| 缓存读取 / 1M token | $0.1 | $0.25 | 0.4× |
| 缓存写入 | - | 1.25x | - |
价格取自构建时的实时目录，最新价格见各模型页面。
两个模型所处的位置：全部 79 个按同一单位计费的聊天模型的每 1M token 输入价分布（对数刻度）
能力
| Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| 工具调用 | 是 | 是 |
| 思考控制 | 是，但供应商未公布调节参数 | 是，但供应商未公布调节参数 |
| 结构化输出 | 是 | 是 |
| 提示词缓存 | 隐式 + 显式 | 隐式 + 显式 |
| 缓存有效期 | 未公布 | explicit: 5m, reset on hit |
| 最小缓存前缀 | 4096 个 token | 1024 个 token |
规格
| Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| 输入模态 | 文本 图像 音频 视频 | 文本 图像 |
| 输出模态 | 文本 | 文本 |
| 发布日期 | 2026-10-13 | 2026-08-03 |
| 知识截止日期 | 2026-03 | - |
| 上下文窗口 | 1M | 984K |
| 最大输出 | 66K | 131K |
规格照录自各供应商的文档；供应商没有公布的项目，对应的行直接省略，不做推断。 完整来源： Gemini 4 Argon · Qwen3.8 Max
同一条提示词，两个模型，经网关实测
Gemini 4 Argon 通过 · 3 sentences
Enabling the reasoning feature forces the AI to generate an extensive, hidden "chain of thought" to solve complex problems before delivering the final answer. Because LLM providers bill us per token generated, we are now paying for thousands of these invisible "thinking" words on top of the standard visible output. While this doubles our raw usage costs per query, it represents an investment in significantly higher accuracy and drastically reduced error rates for our most critical tasks.
输出 91 tok 延迟 4.7 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 3 sentences
Enabling reasoning makes the model produce additional hidden steps before responding, and those tokens are billable. It also tends to lengthen each interaction because the model works through more possibilities before settling on an answer. Therefore, the bill doubled mainly due to higher compute and token usage per request, not necessarily because the number of requests doubled.
输出 378 tok (+305 思考) 延迟 8.6 s
指令遵循（恰好三句，数得出来）、受众适配（对 CFO 说话的口吻），以及下方 token 计数暴露出的隐藏思考计费差额。
Gemini 4 Argon 通过 · 8/8 cases
```python def longest_run(xs): if not xs: return 0 best = 1 cur = 1 for i in range(1, len(xs)): if xs[i] == xs[i - 1]: cur += 1 best = max(best, cur) else: cur = 1 return best ``` The bug occurs because the original function counts the number of matching adjacent *pairs* rather than the actual number of *elements* in a run, causing all non-empty results to be off by one. Because a single element constitutes a valid run of length 1, initializing and resetting `cur` and `best` to `0` instead of `1` means the first element of any sequence is never counted; this causes single-element lists (where the loop doesn't run) to wrongly return `0` and makes it seem like runs at the end are missed because a pair of matching elements only increments `cur` to `1` instead of `2`. […]
输出 286 tok 延迟 7.5 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 8/8 cases
```python def longest_run(xs): if not xs: return 0 best = cur = 1 for i in range(1, len(xs)): if xs[i] == xs[i - 1]: cur += 1 else: cur = 1 best = max(best, cur) return best ``` The bug is that the original code starts `best` and `cur` at `0`, so it counts adjacent equal *transitions* rather than the number of items in the run. A run of length `n` has only `n - 1` equal-neighbor transitions, so single-element inputs return `0`, and runs that reach the end are undercounted by one. Initializing the current run to `1` for the first element, resetting it to `1` on a break, and updating `best` from that count fixes the off-by-one.
输出 1616 tok (+1411 思考) 延迟 34.7 s
修复是否真的正确（能运行）、解释的信息密度，以及在一个范围明确的任务上的 token 效率。
Gemini 4 Argon 通过 · 5/5 fields, guidance "withheld pending the Q4 close"
```json { "company": "Meridian Robotics", "quarter": "September quarter", "revenue_usd_m": null, "growth_pct": "eleven and change", "guidance": "withheld pending the Q4 close" } ```
输出 68 tok 延迟 5.8 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 5/5 fields, guidance null
{ "company": "Meridian Robotics", "quarter": "September quarter", "revenue_usd_m": 412, "growth_pct": 11, "guidance": null }
输出 1199 tok (+1141 思考) 延迟 24.4 s
是否严守 schema（不臆造字段）、能否顶住幻觉压力（原文明说暂不给出 guidance），以及结构化输出路径的差异。
Gemini 4 Argon 通过 · 120 words, 0 banned, 1 question
Are you paying twice for the exact same AI responses? Today, we are introducing Cross-Provider Prompt Caching for our API gateway, a new feature designed to reduce your artificial intelligence infrastructure costs and latency. When your applications send identical prompts to different large language models, our gateway now intercepts the request and serves a verified, cached response in milliseconds. It works across OpenAI, Anthropic, and open-source models simultaneously. If your primary provider experiences an outage, your fallback model still benefits from the shared cache Layer, preventing expensive redundant computations. Engineering teams can configure custom time-to-live settings, set similarity thresholds, and monitor cache hit rates directly from the dashboard. Activate Cross-Provider Prompt Caching in your gateway settings today and start saving.
输出 156 tok 延迟 6.3 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 120 words, 0 banned, 1 question
Today, our API gateway adds prompt caching across major model providers. It stores prompts and responses in one fast cache layer. Teams can lower token spend, reduce latency, and repeat reliable answers. The feature supports OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and Mistral through one configuration. You can set retention rules, scope access, and invalidate entries quickly. How does your team maintain consistent results during provider outages? Approved cached responses keep applications stable while fallback routes recover. The dashboard shows hit rates, savings, latency, and provider usage. Engineers receive audit trails for every cached prompt, enabling safer testing. Product managers can compare cost trends before and after cache adoption. Start with a small route, then safely expand caching to production traffic right now.
输出 2744 tok (+2591 思考) 延迟 46.3 s
是否守住约束（字数预算、禁用词表、只能有一个问句）、文风特征，以及长度控制。
改一行代码就能在两个模型之间切换
下方每个标签页里都有两个模型 ID，高亮的那两行是唯一要改的地方。端点不变，API key 不变，请求结构也不变。
from openai import OpenAI
client = OpenAI(
base_url="https://synthorai.io/v1",
api_key="sk-syn-...",
)
resp = client.chat.completions.create(
model="gemini-4-argon",
# model="qwen3.8-max", # 取消注释此行，注释上一行
messages=[{"role": "user", "content": "Summarize this diff"}],
reasoning_effort="medium",
)
print(resp.choices[0].message.content)import OpenAI from "openai";
const client = new OpenAI({
baseURL: "https://synthorai.io/v1",
apiKey: "sk-syn-...",
});
const resp = await client.chat.completions.create({
model: "gemini-4-argon",
// model: "qwen3.8-max", // 取消注释此行，注释上一行
messages: [{ role: "user", content: "Summarize this diff" }],
reasoning_effort: "medium",
});
console.log(resp.choices[0].message.content);curl https://synthorai.io/v1/chat/completions \
-H "Authorization: Bearer sk-syn-..." \
-H "Content-Type: application/json" \
-d '{
"model": "gemini-4-argon",
# "model": "qwen3.8-max", # 取消注释此行，注释上一行
"messages": [{"role": "user", "content": "Hello"}],
"reasoning_effort": "medium"
}'package main
import (
"context"
"fmt"
"github.com/openai/openai-go/v3"
"github.com/openai/openai-go/v3/option"
)
func main() {
client := openai.NewClient(
option.WithBaseURL("https://synthorai.io/v1"),
option.WithAPIKey("sk-syn-..."),
)
resp, _ := client.Chat.Completions.New(context.TODO(), openai.ChatCompletionNewParams{
Model: "gemini-4-argon",
// Model: "qwen3.8-max", // 取消注释此行，注释上一行
Messages: []openai.ChatCompletionMessageParamUnion{
openai.UserMessage("Summarize this diff"),
},
ReasoningEffort: openai.ReasoningEffortMedium,
})
fmt.Println(resp.Choices[0].Message.Content)
}import com.openai.client.OpenAIClient;
import com.openai.client.okhttp.OpenAIOkHttpClient;
import com.openai.models.chat.completions.*;
import com.openai.models.ReasoningEffort;
OpenAIClient client = OpenAIOkHttpClient.builder()
.baseUrl("https://synthorai.io/v1")
.apiKey("sk-syn-...")
.build();
ChatCompletion resp = client.chat().completions().create(
ChatCompletionCreateParams.builder()
.model("gemini-4-argon")
// .model("qwen3.8-max") // 取消注释此行，注释上一行
.addUserMessage("Summarize this diff")
.reasoningEffort(ReasoningEffort.MEDIUM)
.build());
System.out.println(resp.choices().get(0).message().content().orElse(""));常见问题
Gemini 4 Argon 和 Qwen3.8 Max 哪个更便宜？
两个模型的「输入 / 1M token」价格相同（$2），所以这一项上价格分不出高下，请看下方的规格与能力。
不用分别集成两次，就能对 Gemini 4 Argon 和 Qwen3.8 Max 做 A/B 测试吗？
可以。两个模型走同一个 OpenAI 兼容端点，用同一个 API key，切换时只要改一行里的模型名，所以可以给两个模型各分一部分流量，直接对比账单。
Gemini 4 Argon 和 Qwen3.8 Max 支持提示词缓存吗？
支持。两个模型的缓存读取价都低于各自的输入价，所以前缀能反复命中缓存的负载，实际成本会比按官网价估算的低。具体的缓存读取价见上方价格表。