DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) vs Qwen3.8 Max
什么时候选哪个
两者均接受文本和图像输入、返回文本，支持对话、视觉、代码、推理和工具调用，上下文均约为一百万个 token（deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017 为 1000000，qwen3.8-max 为 983616），主要区别在于价格和输出空间。qwen3.8-max 的输入、输出和缓存读取价格分别约为 deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017 的 6.7 倍、5 倍和 42 倍；deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017 最多可输出 393216 个 token，而前者为 131072 个 token。对于大批量任务、大量复用缓存的任务或超长内容生成，可选择 deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017。如果需要结构化输出，可选择 qwen3.8-max，其每百万个 token 的输入和输出价格分别为 $2/$6；deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017 未列出结构化输出支持。
Benchmark 成绩
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017)：供应商没有公布 benchmark 成绩。
供应商公布： Alibaba (Qwen) Anthropic ByteDance DeepSeek Google MiniMax Moonshot OpenAI Tencent Z.ai
价格
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) | Qwen3.8 Max | Δ | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 输入 / 1M token | $0.3 | $2 | 0.15× |
| 输出 / 1M token | $1.2 | $6 | 0.2× |
| 缓存读取 / 1M token | $0.006 | $0.25 | 0.024× |
| 缓存写入 | 不单独收费 | 1.25x | - |
价格取自构建时的实时目录，最新价格见各模型页面。
两个模型所处的位置：全部 79 个按同一单位计费的聊天模型的每 1M token 输入价分布（对数刻度）
能力
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| 工具调用 | 是 | 是 |
| 思考控制 | 是，但供应商未公布调节参数 | 是，但供应商未公布调节参数 |
| 结构化输出 | - | 是 |
| 提示词缓存 | 隐式（自动） | 隐式 + 显式 |
| 缓存有效期 | no fixed TTL (evicted when unused) | explicit: 5m, reset on hit |
| 最小缓存前缀 | 未公布 | 1024 个 token |
规格
| DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| 输入模态 | 文本 图像 | 文本 图像 |
| 输出模态 | 文本 | 文本 |
| 发布日期 | 2026-10-17 | 2026-08-03 |
| 上下文窗口 | 1M | 984K |
| 最大输出 | 393K | 131K |
规格照录自各供应商的文档；供应商没有公布的项目，对应的行直接省略，不做推断。 完整来源： DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) · Qwen3.8 Max
同一条提示词，两个模型，经网关实测
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 通过 · 3 sentences
Enabling reasoning caused each request to generate additional internal reasoning tokens, which are billed like output tokens and can be several times longer than the final answer. Those extra tokens raise cost per call, and longer responses plus occasional retries pushed total usage to roughly double. We can control this with reasoning-effort limits, token budgets, caching, and spend monitoring by use case.
输出 253 tok (+178 思考) 延迟 5.4 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 3 sentences
Enabling reasoning makes the model produce additional hidden steps before responding, and those tokens are billable. It also tends to lengthen each interaction because the model works through more possibilities before settling on an answer. Therefore, the bill doubled mainly due to higher compute and token usage per request, not necessarily because the number of requests doubled.
输出 378 tok (+305 思考) 延迟 8.6 s
指令遵循（恰好三句，数得出来）、受众适配（对 CFO 说话的口吻），以及下方 token 计数暴露出的隐藏思考计费差额。
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 通过 · 8/8 cases
```python def longest_run(xs): if not xs: return 0 best = cur = 1 for i in range(1, len(xs)): if xs[i] == xs[i - 1]: cur += 1 else: cur = 1 best = max(best, cur) return best ``` The bug is that `cur` starts at `0` and is incremented only when two adjacent items match, so it counts equal adjacent pairs rather than run length; a run of length `k` is recorded as `k - 1`. Consequently, a single-element input returns `0`, and a run ending at the last index—especially a one-element final run—is undercounted or never counted. The fix initializes every run to length `1`, increments on a match, resets to `1` on a mismatch, updates `best` each iteration, and handles the empty input separately.
输出 1300 tok (+1095 思考) 延迟 11.8 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 8/8 cases
```python def longest_run(xs): if not xs: return 0 best = cur = 1 for i in range(1, len(xs)): if xs[i] == xs[i - 1]: cur += 1 else: cur = 1 best = max(best, cur) return best ``` The bug is that the original code starts `best` and `cur` at `0`, so it counts adjacent equal *transitions* rather than the number of items in the run. A run of length `n` has only `n - 1` equal-neighbor transitions, so single-element inputs return `0`, and runs that reach the end are undercounted by one. Initializing the current run to `1` for the first element, resetting it to `1` on a break, and updating `best` from that count fixes the off-by-one.
输出 1616 tok (+1411 思考) 延迟 34.7 s
修复是否真的正确（能运行）、解释的信息密度，以及在一个范围明确的任务上的 token 效率。
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 通过 · 5/5 fields, guidance "withheld pending the Q4 close"
{"company":"Meridian Robotics","quarter":"September quarter","revenue_usd_m":412,"growth_pct":11,"guidance":"withheld pending the Q4 close"}
输出 1375 tok (+1337 思考) 延迟 12.2 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 5/5 fields, guidance null
{ "company": "Meridian Robotics", "quarter": "September quarter", "revenue_usd_m": 412, "growth_pct": 11, "guidance": null }
输出 1199 tok (+1141 思考) 延迟 24.4 s
是否严守 schema（不臆造字段）、能否顶住幻觉压力（原文明说暂不给出 guidance），以及结构化输出路径的差异。
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 通过 · 120 words, 0 banned, 1 question
Today we’re introducing Cross-Provider Prompt Cache in the API gateway. It stores identical prompt requests once and serves cached responses across supported model providers, reducing duplicate calls, latency, and spend. Teams can set cache keys by model, temperature, system prompt, and custom metadata, then choose TTLs per route or workspace. The gateway handles provider fallback while keeping cached results consistent with your policy. Is your team paying twice for the same prompt? Cross-Provider Prompt Cache helps you answer that. Configure it in the gateway dashboard, inspect hit rates by provider, and invalidate entries on demand. Existing gateway routes need no code changes; enable the feature and define your caching rules. Cross-Provider Prompt Cache is available for all API gateway customers.
输出 2487 tok (+2335 思考) 延迟 17.1 s
Qwen3.8 Max 通过 · 120 words, 0 banned, 1 question
Today, our API gateway adds prompt caching across major model providers. It stores prompts and responses in one fast cache layer. Teams can lower token spend, reduce latency, and repeat reliable answers. The feature supports OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and Mistral through one configuration. You can set retention rules, scope access, and invalidate entries quickly. How does your team maintain consistent results during provider outages? Approved cached responses keep applications stable while fallback routes recover. The dashboard shows hit rates, savings, latency, and provider usage. Engineers receive audit trails for every cached prompt, enabling safer testing. Product managers can compare cost trends before and after cache adoption. Start with a small route, then safely expand caching to production traffic right now.
输出 2744 tok (+2591 思考) 延迟 46.3 s
是否守住约束（字数预算、禁用词表、只能有一个问句）、文风特征，以及长度控制。
改一行代码就能在两个模型之间切换
下方每个标签页里都有两个模型 ID，高亮的那两行是唯一要改的地方。端点不变，API key 不变，请求结构也不变。
from openai import OpenAI
client = OpenAI(
base_url="https://synthorai.io/v1",
api_key="sk-syn-...",
)
resp = client.chat.completions.create(
model="deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017",
# model="qwen3.8-max", # 取消注释此行，注释上一行
messages=[{"role": "user", "content": "Summarize this diff"}],
reasoning_effort="medium",
)
print(resp.choices[0].message.content)import OpenAI from "openai";
const client = new OpenAI({
baseURL: "https://synthorai.io/v1",
apiKey: "sk-syn-...",
});
const resp = await client.chat.completions.create({
model: "deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017",
// model: "qwen3.8-max", // 取消注释此行，注释上一行
messages: [{ role: "user", content: "Summarize this diff" }],
reasoning_effort: "medium",
});
console.log(resp.choices[0].message.content);curl https://synthorai.io/v1/chat/completions \
-H "Authorization: Bearer sk-syn-..." \
-H "Content-Type: application/json" \
-d '{
"model": "deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017",
# "model": "qwen3.8-max", # 取消注释此行，注释上一行
"messages": [{"role": "user", "content": "Hello"}],
"reasoning_effort": "medium"
}'package main
import (
"context"
"fmt"
"github.com/openai/openai-go/v3"
"github.com/openai/openai-go/v3/option"
)
func main() {
client := openai.NewClient(
option.WithBaseURL("https://synthorai.io/v1"),
option.WithAPIKey("sk-syn-..."),
)
resp, _ := client.Chat.Completions.New(context.TODO(), openai.ChatCompletionNewParams{
Model: "deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017",
// Model: "qwen3.8-max", // 取消注释此行，注释上一行
Messages: []openai.ChatCompletionMessageParamUnion{
openai.UserMessage("Summarize this diff"),
},
ReasoningEffort: openai.ReasoningEffortMedium,
})
fmt.Println(resp.Choices[0].Message.Content)
}import com.openai.client.OpenAIClient;
import com.openai.client.okhttp.OpenAIOkHttpClient;
import com.openai.models.chat.completions.*;
import com.openai.models.ReasoningEffort;
OpenAIClient client = OpenAIOkHttpClient.builder()
.baseUrl("https://synthorai.io/v1")
.apiKey("sk-syn-...")
.build();
ChatCompletion resp = client.chat().completions().create(
ChatCompletionCreateParams.builder()
.model("deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017")
// .model("qwen3.8-max") // 取消注释此行，注释上一行
.addUserMessage("Summarize this diff")
.reasoningEffort(ReasoningEffort.MEDIUM)
.build());
System.out.println(resp.choices().get(0).message().content().orElse(""));常见问题
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 和 Qwen3.8 Max 哪个更便宜？
按「输入 / 1M token」算，DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 更便宜（$0.3 对 $2，相差 6.7×）。其他计费项的结论可能相反，完整价格见上方表格，实际成本取决于你的用量构成。
不用分别集成两次，就能对 DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 和 Qwen3.8 Max 做 A/B 测试吗？
可以。两个模型走同一个 OpenAI 兼容端点，用同一个 API key，切换时只要改一行里的模型名，所以可以给两个模型各分一部分流量，直接对比账单。
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (1017) 和 Qwen3.8 Max 支持提示词缓存吗？
支持。两个模型的缓存读取价都低于各自的输入价，所以前缀能反复命中缓存的负载，实际成本会比按官网价估算的低。具体的缓存读取价见上方价格表。