DeepSeek V4 Pro vs Qwen3.8 Max
Which one, when — curated verdict, not a benchmark table
Pick deepseek-v4-pro for text-only work at volume: it's cheaper per million tokens on input ($1.608 vs $2) and output ($3.216 vs $6, so Qwen is about 1.87x), its cache reads run at $0.0134 against $0.25, and it allows up to 393216 output tokens versus 131072 — plus thinking can be switched off. Choose qwen3.8-max when you need image input, since it accepts text and images while deepseek-v4-pro is text-in, text-out. Context is effectively a wash at 1000000 versus 983616 tokens, and both cover chat, code, reasoning and tools.
Pricing
| DeepSeek V4 Pro | Qwen3.8 Max | Δ | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Input / 1M tokens | $1.608 | $2 | 0.8× |
| Output / 1M tokens | $3.216 | $6 | 0.54× |
| Cache read / 1M tokens | $0.0134 | $0.25 | 0.054× |
| Cache write | no separate charge | 1.25x | — |
Rates from the live catalog at build time; each model page carries the current card.
Where they sit — input price per 1M tokens across all 63 chat models on this billing unit (log scale)
Capabilities
| DeepSeek V4 Pro | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Tool use | yes | yes |
| Thinking control | configurable | yes — vendor dial not published |
| Structured output | yes | yes |
| Prompt caching | implicit (automatic) | implicit + explicit |
| Cache lifetime | no fixed TTL (evicted when unused) | explicit: 5m, reset on hit |
| Minimum cached prefix | not published | 1024 tokens |
Specs
| DeepSeek V4 Pro | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Input modalities | text | text image |
| Output modalities | text | text |
| Released | 2026-04-24 | 2026-08-03 |
| Context window | 1M | 984K |
| Max output | 393K | 131K |
| Thinking parameter |
| — |
| Accepted values | thinking.type
reasoning_effort
| — |
| Default | enabled, with reasoning_effort high some complex agent requests are automatically set to max | — |
Specs are transcribed from each vendor’s documentation; a row a vendor does not publish is left out rather than inferred. Full sources: DeepSeek V4 Pro · Qwen3.8 Max
One prompt, both models — measured through the gateway
DeepSeek V4 Pro passed · 3 sentences
Enabling reasoning causes the model to generate a lengthy internal chain‑of‑thought before it delivers a visible answer, and we are billed for every one of those hidden reasoning tokens just as we are for the final output. In most interactions, the volume of these unseen tokens at least equals the visible response, effectively doubling the total tokens consumed per query. That doubled token consumption translates directly into a doubled per‑query cost, which is why our overall LLM bill doubled.
out 641 tok (+545 thinking) latency 11.5 s
Qwen3.8 Max passed · 3 sentences
Enabling reasoning makes the model produce additional hidden steps before responding, and those tokens are billable. It also tends to lengthen each interaction because the model works through more possibilities before settling on an answer. Therefore, the bill doubled mainly due to higher compute and token usage per request, not necessarily because the number of requests doubled.
out 378 tok (+305 thinking) latency 8.6 s
Instruction following (exactly three sentences — countable), audience shaping (CFO register), and the hidden-thinking billing gap the token meters below expose.
DeepSeek V4 Pro passed · 8/8 cases
```python def longest_run(xs): if not xs: return 0 best = 1 cur = 1 for i in range(1, len(xs)): if xs[i] == xs[i - 1]: cur += 1 best = max(best, cur) else: cur = 1 return best ``` **Explanation:** The bug stems from initializing `cur = 0` and only incrementing it when two adjacent elements match, which counts the number of *additional* equal elements rather than the actual run length (which is `cur + 1`). As a result, the returned `best` is always one less than the true longest run—most obviously returning 0 for a single-element list instead of 1. […]
out 2418 tok (+2131 thinking) latency 35.6 s
Qwen3.8 Max passed · 8/8 cases
```python def longest_run(xs): if not xs: return 0 best = cur = 1 for i in range(1, len(xs)): if xs[i] == xs[i - 1]: cur += 1 else: cur = 1 best = max(best, cur) return best ``` The bug is that the original code starts `best` and `cur` at `0`, so it counts adjacent equal *transitions* rather than the number of items in the run. A run of length `n` has only `n - 1` equal-neighbor transitions, so single-element inputs return `0`, and runs that reach the end are undercounted by one. Initializing the current run to `1` for the first element, resetting it to `1` on a break, and updating `best` from that count fixes the off-by-one.
out 1616 tok (+1411 thinking) latency 34.7 s
Whether the fix is actually correct (runnable), explanation density, and token efficiency on a bounded task.
DeepSeek V4 Pro passed · 5/5 fields, guidance null
{ "company": "Meridian Robotics", "quarter": "September quarter", "revenue_usd_m": 412, "growth_pct": "eleven and change", "guidance": null }
out 1204 tok (+1153 thinking) latency 19.9 s
Qwen3.8 Max passed · 5/5 fields, guidance null
{ "company": "Meridian Robotics", "quarter": "September quarter", "revenue_usd_m": 412, "growth_pct": 11, "guidance": null }
out 1199 tok (+1141 thinking) latency 24.4 s
Schema obedience (no invented fields), hallucination pressure (guidance is explicitly withheld), and structured-output path differences.
DeepSeek V4 Pro no answer to grade · no answer text within 16,384 tokens (all of it went to thinking)
The model returned no answer text — the whole token budget went to hidden thinking.
out 8193 tok (+8192 thinking) latency 106.2 s
Qwen3.8 Max passed · 120 words, 0 banned, 1 question
Today, our API gateway adds prompt caching across major model providers. It stores prompts and responses in one fast cache layer. Teams can lower token spend, reduce latency, and repeat reliable answers. The feature supports OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and Mistral through one configuration. You can set retention rules, scope access, and invalidate entries quickly. How does your team maintain consistent results during provider outages? Approved cached responses keep applications stable while fallback routes recover. The dashboard shows hit rates, savings, latency, and provider usage. Engineers receive audit trails for every cached prompt, enabling safer testing. Product managers can compare cost trends before and after cache adoption. Start with a small route, then safely expand caching to production traffic right now.
out 2744 tok (+2591 thinking) latency 46.3 s
Constraint obedience (word budget, banned-word list, the single question), style fingerprint, and length control.
Switch between them with one line
Both ids are in every tab below — the highlighted pair of lines is the only edit. Same endpoint, same key, same request shape.
from openai import OpenAI
client = OpenAI(
base_url="https://synthorai.io/v1",
api_key="sk-syn-...",
)
resp = client.chat.completions.create(
model="deepseek-v4-pro",
# model="qwen3.8-max", # uncomment this line, comment the one above
messages=[{"role": "user", "content": "Summarize this diff"}],
reasoning_effort="medium",
)
print(resp.choices[0].message.content)import OpenAI from "openai";
const client = new OpenAI({
baseURL: "https://synthorai.io/v1",
apiKey: "sk-syn-...",
});
const resp = await client.chat.completions.create({
model: "deepseek-v4-pro",
// model: "qwen3.8-max", // uncomment this line, comment the one above
messages: [{ role: "user", content: "Summarize this diff" }],
reasoning_effort: "medium",
});
console.log(resp.choices[0].message.content);curl https://synthorai.io/v1/chat/completions \
-H "Authorization: Bearer sk-syn-..." \
-H "Content-Type: application/json" \
-d '{
"model": "deepseek-v4-pro",
# "model": "qwen3.8-max", # uncomment this line, comment the one above
"messages": [{"role": "user", "content": "Hello"}],
"reasoning_effort": "medium"
}'package main
import (
"context"
"fmt"
"github.com/openai/openai-go/v3"
"github.com/openai/openai-go/v3/option"
)
func main() {
client := openai.NewClient(
option.WithBaseURL("https://synthorai.io/v1"),
option.WithAPIKey("sk-syn-..."),
)
resp, _ := client.Chat.Completions.New(context.TODO(), openai.ChatCompletionNewParams{
Model: "deepseek-v4-pro",
// Model: "qwen3.8-max", // uncomment this line, comment the one above
Messages: []openai.ChatCompletionMessageParamUnion{
openai.UserMessage("Summarize this diff"),
},
ReasoningEffort: openai.ReasoningEffortMedium,
})
fmt.Println(resp.Choices[0].Message.Content)
}import com.openai.client.OpenAIClient;
import com.openai.client.okhttp.OpenAIOkHttpClient;
import com.openai.models.chat.completions.*;
import com.openai.models.ReasoningEffort;
OpenAIClient client = OpenAIOkHttpClient.builder()
.baseUrl("https://synthorai.io/v1")
.apiKey("sk-syn-...")
.build();
ChatCompletion resp = client.chat().completions().create(
ChatCompletionCreateParams.builder()
.model("deepseek-v4-pro")
// .model("qwen3.8-max") // uncomment this line, comment the one above
.addUserMessage("Summarize this diff")
.reasoningEffort(ReasoningEffort.MEDIUM)
.build());
System.out.println(resp.choices().get(0).message().content().orElse(""));FAQ
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4 Pro or Qwen3.8 Max?
DeepSeek V4 Pro is cheaper on input / 1m tokens ($1.608 vs $2, 1.2× apart). Other rows may point the other way — the table above carries the full card, and real cost depends on your mix.
Can I A/B test DeepSeek V4 Pro against Qwen3.8 Max without two integrations?
Yes. Both are served through the same OpenAI-compatible endpoint with one API key — switching is a one-line model-string change, so you can route a fraction of traffic to each and compare bills directly.
Do DeepSeek V4 Pro and Qwen3.8 Max support prompt caching?
Yes — both bill cached reads below their input rate, so warm-prefix workloads cost less than the list rates suggest. The exact cache-read rows are in the pricing table above.